Defence in FM2008
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Here you can find a brilliant little guide explaining in detail, the different reasons why your defence may be leaking goals in FM2008
So if you're struggling in defence and conceding to many goals and want to work out why this is happening and put a stop to it, then this is definitely the guide for you.
The one response that really annoys those who complain about the game is "it's your tactics". And, to be honest, so it should. "It's your tactics" doesn't solve anything. Of course, regulars around the community know the full meaning of this little epithet, but most newcomers (I deliberately avoided the term 'n00b'), find it rather offensive - the mantra of the geek defending the game but not actually answering the problem.
"It's your tactics" is therefore usually expanded, especially on tactics boards. We tend to add extra clauses to the law. The favourite one at the moment appears to be "It's your tactics - look at how you're conceding goals".
It occurred to me recently, however, that this phrase in itself is useless unless you know how to look at how you're conceding goals. It might sound obvious - you may even think you know all the answers - but a lot goes into a goal. Did the poor marking on the striker cause the goal, or was it the fact that the winger was given all day to place a perfect cross? Or was it even simply the fact that the opposition were given enough time to cooly pass it around until the striker was poorly marked?
I have tried, therefore, to outline a very basic set of guidlines for analysing those pesky "goals against" scenarios. Hopefully, it may give a little more flesh to what is obviously a very true but very useless statement - "It's your tactics".
In my opinion there are three main elements to a goal. In reverse order:
* The goal scorer - the guy that actually puts the ball in the back of the net
* The supply - how the goalscorer was able to be in the right place to put the ball in the back of the net
* The build up - how the team managed to get to the right situation for the final few moves of the attack to be effected
The third one is the most difficult to read and to judge. So, for now, we'll leave it and concentrate on the two which are easiest to spot (or at least, the ones which usually receive the most attention from fans and commentators).
1 - Mmm, goooooooooooooooooooooooooool!
The striker may have scored the goal, but how did he score it? From where? Who was around him? Did he use his head or his foot?
Questions like this may seem obvious, but the obvious answers are sometimes the most overlooked. If your team tend to concede a lot of headed goals, then perhaps it is time to invest in a taller player or two in key positions. If your team concede a lot of close range shots, consider how the opposition are able to get so close. If there are a lot of long-range shots being scored, is there a problem with your keeper, or are you blocking his view with defenders or perhaps deflecting it too much? Is there a marking issue? Or are too many challenges being missed? Simply, how is the opposition player able to shoot from the place he does, and is it a fault of your team or tactics?
The goal scorer is only a small part of a goal, and his role may only be the split second in which the ball makes contact with his foot or his body, but if you stop him being able to do that you may reduce considerably the number of chances you concede.
Things to consider:
* Is the striker/goalscorer unmarked or poorly marked?
* Did the goalscorer exploit a weakness in his marker (height, strength, tackling ability)?
* Is the shape of the team as a whole a factor (is the player poorly marked because of poor position caused by shape and tactics, or are certain positions outnumbered in attack situations)?
* Is there a pattern emerging accross the whole game or accross the season?
* Would a better (more talented) player/team be able to cope better? Or could the same job be done by concentrating more on the positioning and instructions of the defence?
* Check the shots attempted, shots on target and goals from various positions accross the season. Is there a pattern? Are certain areas of the pitch getting more opportunities than others, and ask yourself both why and how can you stop them.
2 - Beautiful ball in from the left wing...
A little less obvious, but by no means less crucial is the role of the assist. It might be one person, it might be a couple, but in general the goal supply comes from the two or three moves before the goalscorer shoots. You need to look for patterns in supply.
It could be crosses, or brilliant through balls. It could even be that the goalscorer himself is the provider by skinning your defence or by playing a silky one-two with a team mate. In these cases, you can combine your analysis from part one in with part two. At all times you should be considering the importance of the supply, however, since without supply even a world-class striker is nothing.
When people as what type of goal you're conceding, this is usually what they mean - is it a cross, through balls, free kicks even? Supply is more important, often, than how the ball was actually struck into the net. Crosses can be the result of poor marking on the wings, playing too narrow or simply not being properly positioned to deal with any crosses to the centre (which takes us back to part one and the questions of shape and marking on the goalscorer). Through balls can often be the result of long punts to a striker who beats the offside trap, or shorter ground balls from midfield that the fast striker (or slow, poorly positioned defenders) creates the chance from. Free kicks and corners are also worth considering. Is the supply from the corner the physical act of kicking it from the corner arc, or was it the mazy run that the winger was allowed to make before your right back conceded the corner in the first place? It's an important thing to consider. If you're weak at defending corners it's not necessarily a problem if you never concede them. Consider how changing your tactics might help cover up your weaknesses or may help force the opposition to attack you in a way you are comfortable with.
Finally, while we're on the subject of supply, remember that your own player might be the supplier. He could be the guy who fouled their captain to give away the penalty, or the dimwit that cleared the goalkick straight at the striker's face. Either way, don't forget the mistakes your own players have made as well as the skill of the opposition and ask if it's just a one off or an avoidable mistake. How can you stop them making the mistake? If not, how can you reduce the potential risks of making the mistake?
Things to consider:
* The physical act of the assist - was it allowed because of poor marking and/or tackling?
* In the run up to the goal, were the opposition afforded too much time, or were they able to exploit you?
* In set piece situations, how was the set piece conceded and is there a pattern? Could you do something about it (lower d-line to stop the defence chasing the game, milder tackling, fewer deflections etc.)?
* Is the supply generally good, or is a combination of not being able to prevent the supply and not being able to stop the supply reaching its intended target? i.e., is the defence poor on both the supplier and the player being supplied (the goalscorer)
* Again, are there patterns of behaviour? Certain types of goals being conceded?
* Are your own players doing enough to ensure they don't become the architects of their own downfall?
* Look at certain stats such as key passes, assists, cross completion, fouls against and pass completion from the opposition individuals and teams and see if certain positions are getting more time on the ball or are able to do more than others and ask if there is a way to cut down their effectiveness.
3 - And they recover the ball just outside their eighteen yard box...
I said this was the most difficult to read and judge, but only because what you see here doesn't necessarily lead to a goal, or may even be too short to notice. A quick counter attack almost bypasses this step, while a team could have 60% possession and never hit the target. It is incredibly important to consider how much possession and build up the opposition is afforded, however, and judging how they are getting this possession, why they are able to keep it and what they are doing with it.
The solutions to these are more team based than the other two areas. It could be an individual's marking at fault, or the general positioning of the back line and certain midfielders creating the problems with the supply of opposition goals and the taking of chances. However, the build up is far more general. Are you closing down enough? Are you giving the ball away slopily? Are the opposition exploding on the counter attack or playing a gentle flowing style? All are important factors in how you defend.
Things to watch out for:
* Consider possession and pass completion stats - if theirs are high then perhaps you are not being aggressive enough or efficient enough in winning the ball back. If yours are low, perhaps you are being too wasteful.
* Action zones are a good tool too. The possession in the middle third can be crucial. Are you dominating the midfield, or are they getting too long to look for the killer ball?
* Tackle completion rates and header completion rates can show you where you're losing out
* Again, look at passes attempted/completed for individuals. Is a certain position getting too much time or too much ball? Why? How can you stop it?
* Where do you give up possession?
* What sort of tempo are the opposition generally playing against you? Do you fare better against certain styles?
* How long do the opposition generally take to get into a goal scoring situation?
With all of the above points I haven't really offered many solutions, but that was not my intention. A lot of solutions are implied in the questions, however, and for those that have read the TB you may already have some ideas as to which answers call for which solutions. If you are asking these questions, however, you're halfway there. Not knowing how to solve it isn't too much of a problem, as daft as that sounds, since you will find far more help on the boards if you say "I'm letting in a lot of goals, particularly against quick-tempo teams because they manage to exploit space down the wings and get a lot of crosses to the number 9's head" than by simply crying "I lost 1-0 after having 18 shots, this game's crap".
Spin thes tips on their head if analysing your own attack. How are you doing? How is the opposition's defence doing? And can you use any of this information in your own individual and team instructions?
Doubtless you guys have even more tips or little things you watch for that I've completely missed or haven't thought of, so please, get commenting and help those struggling with finding out just why they're not winning as much as they think they ought.
"It's your tactics" is therefore usually expanded, especially on tactics boards. We tend to add extra clauses to the law. The favourite one at the moment appears to be "It's your tactics - look at how you're conceding goals".
It occurred to me recently, however, that this phrase in itself is useless unless you know how to look at how you're conceding goals. It might sound obvious - you may even think you know all the answers - but a lot goes into a goal. Did the poor marking on the striker cause the goal, or was it the fact that the winger was given all day to place a perfect cross? Or was it even simply the fact that the opposition were given enough time to cooly pass it around until the striker was poorly marked?
I have tried, therefore, to outline a very basic set of guidlines for analysing those pesky "goals against" scenarios. Hopefully, it may give a little more flesh to what is obviously a very true but very useless statement - "It's your tactics".
In my opinion there are three main elements to a goal. In reverse order:
* The goal scorer - the guy that actually puts the ball in the back of the net
* The supply - how the goalscorer was able to be in the right place to put the ball in the back of the net
* The build up - how the team managed to get to the right situation for the final few moves of the attack to be effected
The third one is the most difficult to read and to judge. So, for now, we'll leave it and concentrate on the two which are easiest to spot (or at least, the ones which usually receive the most attention from fans and commentators).
1 - Mmm, goooooooooooooooooooooooooool!
The striker may have scored the goal, but how did he score it? From where? Who was around him? Did he use his head or his foot?
Questions like this may seem obvious, but the obvious answers are sometimes the most overlooked. If your team tend to concede a lot of headed goals, then perhaps it is time to invest in a taller player or two in key positions. If your team concede a lot of close range shots, consider how the opposition are able to get so close. If there are a lot of long-range shots being scored, is there a problem with your keeper, or are you blocking his view with defenders or perhaps deflecting it too much? Is there a marking issue? Or are too many challenges being missed? Simply, how is the opposition player able to shoot from the place he does, and is it a fault of your team or tactics?
The goal scorer is only a small part of a goal, and his role may only be the split second in which the ball makes contact with his foot or his body, but if you stop him being able to do that you may reduce considerably the number of chances you concede.
Things to consider:
* Is the striker/goalscorer unmarked or poorly marked?
* Did the goalscorer exploit a weakness in his marker (height, strength, tackling ability)?
* Is the shape of the team as a whole a factor (is the player poorly marked because of poor position caused by shape and tactics, or are certain positions outnumbered in attack situations)?
* Is there a pattern emerging accross the whole game or accross the season?
* Would a better (more talented) player/team be able to cope better? Or could the same job be done by concentrating more on the positioning and instructions of the defence?
* Check the shots attempted, shots on target and goals from various positions accross the season. Is there a pattern? Are certain areas of the pitch getting more opportunities than others, and ask yourself both why and how can you stop them.
2 - Beautiful ball in from the left wing...
A little less obvious, but by no means less crucial is the role of the assist. It might be one person, it might be a couple, but in general the goal supply comes from the two or three moves before the goalscorer shoots. You need to look for patterns in supply.
It could be crosses, or brilliant through balls. It could even be that the goalscorer himself is the provider by skinning your defence or by playing a silky one-two with a team mate. In these cases, you can combine your analysis from part one in with part two. At all times you should be considering the importance of the supply, however, since without supply even a world-class striker is nothing.
When people as what type of goal you're conceding, this is usually what they mean - is it a cross, through balls, free kicks even? Supply is more important, often, than how the ball was actually struck into the net. Crosses can be the result of poor marking on the wings, playing too narrow or simply not being properly positioned to deal with any crosses to the centre (which takes us back to part one and the questions of shape and marking on the goalscorer). Through balls can often be the result of long punts to a striker who beats the offside trap, or shorter ground balls from midfield that the fast striker (or slow, poorly positioned defenders) creates the chance from. Free kicks and corners are also worth considering. Is the supply from the corner the physical act of kicking it from the corner arc, or was it the mazy run that the winger was allowed to make before your right back conceded the corner in the first place? It's an important thing to consider. If you're weak at defending corners it's not necessarily a problem if you never concede them. Consider how changing your tactics might help cover up your weaknesses or may help force the opposition to attack you in a way you are comfortable with.
Finally, while we're on the subject of supply, remember that your own player might be the supplier. He could be the guy who fouled their captain to give away the penalty, or the dimwit that cleared the goalkick straight at the striker's face. Either way, don't forget the mistakes your own players have made as well as the skill of the opposition and ask if it's just a one off or an avoidable mistake. How can you stop them making the mistake? If not, how can you reduce the potential risks of making the mistake?
Things to consider:
* The physical act of the assist - was it allowed because of poor marking and/or tackling?
* In the run up to the goal, were the opposition afforded too much time, or were they able to exploit you?
* In set piece situations, how was the set piece conceded and is there a pattern? Could you do something about it (lower d-line to stop the defence chasing the game, milder tackling, fewer deflections etc.)?
* Is the supply generally good, or is a combination of not being able to prevent the supply and not being able to stop the supply reaching its intended target? i.e., is the defence poor on both the supplier and the player being supplied (the goalscorer)
* Again, are there patterns of behaviour? Certain types of goals being conceded?
* Are your own players doing enough to ensure they don't become the architects of their own downfall?
* Look at certain stats such as key passes, assists, cross completion, fouls against and pass completion from the opposition individuals and teams and see if certain positions are getting more time on the ball or are able to do more than others and ask if there is a way to cut down their effectiveness.
3 - And they recover the ball just outside their eighteen yard box...
I said this was the most difficult to read and judge, but only because what you see here doesn't necessarily lead to a goal, or may even be too short to notice. A quick counter attack almost bypasses this step, while a team could have 60% possession and never hit the target. It is incredibly important to consider how much possession and build up the opposition is afforded, however, and judging how they are getting this possession, why they are able to keep it and what they are doing with it.
The solutions to these are more team based than the other two areas. It could be an individual's marking at fault, or the general positioning of the back line and certain midfielders creating the problems with the supply of opposition goals and the taking of chances. However, the build up is far more general. Are you closing down enough? Are you giving the ball away slopily? Are the opposition exploding on the counter attack or playing a gentle flowing style? All are important factors in how you defend.
Things to watch out for:
* Consider possession and pass completion stats - if theirs are high then perhaps you are not being aggressive enough or efficient enough in winning the ball back. If yours are low, perhaps you are being too wasteful.
* Action zones are a good tool too. The possession in the middle third can be crucial. Are you dominating the midfield, or are they getting too long to look for the killer ball?
* Tackle completion rates and header completion rates can show you where you're losing out
* Again, look at passes attempted/completed for individuals. Is a certain position getting too much time or too much ball? Why? How can you stop it?
* Where do you give up possession?
* What sort of tempo are the opposition generally playing against you? Do you fare better against certain styles?
* How long do the opposition generally take to get into a goal scoring situation?
With all of the above points I haven't really offered many solutions, but that was not my intention. A lot of solutions are implied in the questions, however, and for those that have read the TB you may already have some ideas as to which answers call for which solutions. If you are asking these questions, however, you're halfway there. Not knowing how to solve it isn't too much of a problem, as daft as that sounds, since you will find far more help on the boards if you say "I'm letting in a lot of goals, particularly against quick-tempo teams because they manage to exploit space down the wings and get a lot of crosses to the number 9's head" than by simply crying "I lost 1-0 after having 18 shots, this game's crap".
Spin thes tips on their head if analysing your own attack. How are you doing? How is the opposition's defence doing? And can you use any of this information in your own individual and team instructions?
Doubtless you guys have even more tips or little things you watch for that I've completely missed or haven't thought of, so please, get commenting and help those struggling with finding out just why they're not winning as much as they think they ought.
